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Protestors seek to stop proposed Decatur Walmart

Opponents of a proposed Walmart at Suburban Plaza in Decatur say traffic will be overwhelming if the discount store is built. Good Growth DeKalb, a group of residents opposing Walmart, is planning two more demonstrations. Photo by Andrew Cauthen

Many honked their horns in support of protestors rallying against a proposed Walmart in Decatur’s Suburban Plaza on Jan. 27.

“We’re raising awareness and we certainly hope Walmart will decide it’s not worth it,” said Lance Netland, who lives in the Oakhurst community. “The neighborhoods have not really had a chance to speak out yet and this is one way to do it.”

In addition to protesting about the potential for increased traffic Netland, who was holding a “More traffic—Stop Walmart” sign, said he is concerned about the effect of the proposed Walmart on small neighborhood businesses.

“It’s going to be a negative impact,” Netland said.

The anti-Walmart rally was organized by Good Growth DeKalb, which is “just a loosely knit group of people to protest,” according to Victoria Webb, who lives near Suburban Plaza.

The 290,000-square-foot Suburban Plaza, located at the junction of North Decatur Road, Church Street and Scott Boulevard, was developed by Selig Enterprises in 1959. The current plans by Selig would increase the shopping center to 324,614 square feet to include the proposed Walmart.

Opponents of the proposed store received a setback in December when DeKalb County’s Zoning Board of Appeals approved Selig Enterprises’ request for a parking variance allowing the developer to have 3.91 parking spaces per 1,000 square feet of floor space, instead of the required 5.5 spaces per 1,000 square feet.

That variance reduced the required spaces for the development by 517 spaces, from 1,786 spaces to 1,269 spaces.

Now opponents of Walmart are looking to the possible increased traffic as a way to convince county officials to keep Walmart out of the community.

“I live nearby and this is my regular route that I drive three or four times a week,” Webb said. “I see a big problem with traffic.”

Webb said the neighborhood around Suburban Plaza “isn’t the right neighborhood” for the proposed Walmart.

“It’s urban,” Webb said. “It’s too dense.”

Louise Runyon, who lives in the Medlock community, said the proposed Walmart would create a “traffic nightmare.”

“We would have a lot more cut-through traffic in our neighborhood,” Runyon said. “We have a lot bikers and dog-walkers and kids in our neighborhood [who] would be less safe.

“Sometimes it takes people during rush hour 10 minutes to get out of here,” said Runyon, who regularly walks to a local physical therapist. She said it sometimes takes her seven minutes to cross the street.

Good Growth DeKalb is in the process of raising money to hire a lawyer to help with its cause, according to Ann Mauney, a member of the group.

So far the group has raised $2,500 of the initial goal of $4,000 to hire a lawyer to investigate a legal challenge to the proposed development, Mauney said.

Even though protestors are focusing on traffic problems, many had deeper, more philosophical opposition to Walmart.

“We don’t feel that Walmart is about community,” Runyon said. “We don’t feel that Walmart is about being a good neighbor. We feel that Walmart is about making a big profit.”

Webb said, “There’s the opportunity for local businesses to come back in now that the economy is getting a little better.

“While Walmart can offer much lower prices, economic studies have shown … that once you put a Walmart in most of the revenue goes outside the community,” Webb said. “They’re displacing jobs. They say they’ll hire hundreds, but what they say to get into a community is often very different from what actually happens.”


Comments (15)

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joe
Said this on 5/25/12 At 12:34 am
ambulances getting threw? i have never seen traffic worse then this area than anywhere i have been. walmart saves you lots of money. i say dig dig dig get is open. we need more stores. huray for wal mart i love you.
Hoke
Said this on 2/7/12 At 09:31 am
Not exactly many people out protesting. Most anything has to be an improvement over that recession battered eyesore of a shopping center. As for "more appropriate" development - don't need more restaurants or condos. I don't see any other companies flocking to the site. Could be worse.
Laura
Said this on 2/4/12 At 03:31 pm
I don't know the details but I heard, that the property owner would not give long term leases, so right now the only businesses that you see are ones willing to go with a short-term lease... they have let this area run down because they were obviously waiting for a big-box deal like this one. It's a shame.
Laura
Said this on 2/4/12 At 03:26 pm
We all have to drive 10 miles routinely to buy stuff because the smaller local stores that used to be available aren't around.... because the big boxes have convinced us that we have to drive somewhere to get a better price! We don't think about the cost of gas to get to these places but I'm starting to. Not to mention, our time...

I've only gone out to a Walmart a couple of times to get something specific (7 seas green goddess dressing was one - they're the only place that has it in Atlanta). The quality of their food, clothing and other merchandise just isn't good enough to get me out there. If I want "deals" I can get better ones at Big Lots. What's sad about this is that we won't have a chance to raise the "quality mix" of stores over time... any other stores in that shopping center will have to cater to "Walmart customers". Our little shopping center could do so much better with the right kind of development - one that's responsive to the needs of folks who actually live around here. With the right mix of stores and some unique offerings, people from elsewhere would actually come here to find what they want - not just to save a few bucks on some mass produced junk!
JerryMyer Jackson Jr
Said this on 2/3/12 At 10:48 am
STOP WallyWorld NOW !

What you gonna do when we loose North and South DeKalb Malls and Stonecrest with all of these God-Forsaken Chineese Crap selling stores !

Only a Bafoon would propose such a thing at Surburban Plaza !

The impact on Emergency Traffic for DeKalb Medical should be of great concern to all !
Robert
Said this on 2/2/12 At 01:12 pm
You're correct, JF, you can make the data say anything. However, the most comprehensive review of published literature (2002-2010) from Hunter College concluded that Walmart, overall, is a bad commercial neighbor. If you're interested: http://advocate.nyc.gov/files/Walmart.pdf.

I myself go back and forth on the question: will Walmart improve Suburban Plaza? The immediate answer will be yes, but over time I'm concerned about its impact on the area as a whole, not just the neighborhoods, but other large retailers, including stores like Publix and Kroger.

The proposed Walmart will contain a supermarket and a study I reviewed indicates that these stores might themselves suffer a sales hit of up to 17%, equivalent to $250,000 per month. It's not just small businesses that could be hurt, it's major retailers as well. Walmart would love to be the only convenient grocery option, but I wouldn't!!! Here's the link to that study from Northwestern's Kellogg School of Business: http://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/index.php/Kellogg/article/wal_mart_supercenter_versus_the_traditional_supermarket.

Will all of these bad things happen? I'm not sure, but my assessment is that Walmart, while an American company, might ultimately be hurting America. It certainly has changed American culture. I work in the research industry and it's a common assumption that Walmart controls upwards of 25% of ALL consumer packaged goods. (Walmart does not release scanner data so there's no way to confirm this, unfortunately.) That amount of control is frightening to me.

I'm not against all big stores. I'm just very concerned about Walmart's impact on local economies and the nation as a whole. I personally don't shop by price alone and will not shop at Walmart no matter how convenient. The true cost of low prices is too high for me.
Said this on 2/2/12 At 12:47 pm
I don't know where you live, JF, but there is a Walmart in Avondale,
at the former mall location, considerably closer than the examples
you cite.
Said this on 2/2/12 At 10:41 am
None of the university economics studies nor the city sponsored impact studies over the past decade have shown Walmart to be beneficial in any way to urban or even their original suburban environs.

The reason that Walmart is now coming into more dense urban areas is that their rural stores are failing. Their strategy is to open new stores in more affluent areas, and then close the older ones, leaving abandoned concrete monoliths and more people out of work.

That forces people to drive exactly the same distance of 10 miles that JF has quoted. It's a lose-lose proposition for Decatur since most of the population will boycott the store.
JF
Said this on 2/2/12 At 12:49 am
I studied Walmart and their business practices more than I care to remember when I got my MBA. Have they hurt some communities? Yes, and so has nearly every other national chain store. Have they helped some communities? Yes, and so has nearly every other national chain store. You can make the argument either way, and everyone knows you can make scientific research show anything that fits the agenda of your choice. Bottom line in this case is that Walmart will not be any worse that whats there already and certainly no worse than any other big box. I will not be sad to see any of it go. Is Walmart my favorite store in the whole world? Definitely not, but if they've got what I'm looking for for the lowest price I'll buy there. I do now, but I have to drive to either Tucker or Chamblee to do it. If you want to drive 10 miles to buy stuff, be my guest. I'll shop across the street.
Said this on 2/1/12 At 09:17 pm
A Walmart is a different beast entirely - from Costco, from Trader Joe's - from the Caroline St. development, and from every other big-box store.

The statistics on how much it hurts local communities can be found in hundreds of economic studies over the past few decades. It's worthwhile to do a little research on it before falling for the 'Suburban Plaza has long been an eyesore' routine.
http://advocate.nyc.gov/files/Walmart.pdf
JF
Said this on 2/1/12 At 05:57 pm
I've got to agree with AEO on this one. I've lived in the Medlock neighborhood for 12 years. What's in Suburban Plaza now is just plain terrible. Its not the local flavor people say that Walmart puts out of business -- it's a half done mattress store, a thrift store in a garage, and a Piccadilly that I wouldn't set foot in. I shop downtown Decatur for the local flavor but have to go to Tucker or Little 5 Points for decent big retail shopping. This center is zoned for big box for a reason. Not having a store like Walmart in our area increases traffic because we all have to get in a car and drive 10 miles to get to the nearest commodity stores. I hope the Walmart attracts more retailers to our area -- maybe we'll get rid of all the derelict car dealerships, 1950's strip malls, and empty lots on Scott Blvd. Just for comparison -- Little 5 pts residents protested the heck out of the Caroline St development saying it would kill the neighborhood, and now most of them love it and shop there.
AEO
Said this on 2/1/12 At 05:25 pm
C'mon people - save your outrage for something useful! Suburban Plaza is currently a retail wasteland. Anything is going to be better than what's there. Furthermore, Walmart wouldn't want to put a store there if they didn't think that people would shop there. People will only shop there if it makes their lives better via lower prices or more convenience or whatever versus their current options. Not everybody needs friendly, knowledgeable staff and locally-sourced handmade products - some of us just want to buy cheap stuff at one store and move on with our lives. Right now we have to drive to Tucker to do it. How is that helping traffic?
Said this on 2/1/12 At 04:01 pm
Thank you, Andrew. We appreciate the coverage.
Robert
Said this on 2/1/12 At 02:04 pm
Thanks for the article. As a Medlock resident, I'm very concerned about this potential development. In addition to my concerns about Walmart's business practices (poor labor relations, no union representation, low wages, poor, if any!, benefits, huge investment in China's economy, etc.), I'm also worried about the impact to the area. The traffic will be crazy! The neighborhoods around Suburban would be forever damaged, in my opinion. Even the demolition of the existing structures worries me. They were built in 1959 and likely contain asbestos. It seems like Selig could do a better job of finding a retailer appropriate to the area. Thanks again for the coverage!

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